tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post7259142376028325209..comments2024-03-13T12:52:19.391-07:00Comments on Pure Mormonism: Uncomfortable GodAlan Rock Watermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04971243364867111868noreply@blogger.comBlogger708125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-54012103195496457582020-08-29T07:37:24.918-07:002020-08-29T07:37:24.918-07:00Thanks Cate and Rock! You have inspired me to add ...Thanks Cate and Rock! You have inspired me to add another charity to my monthly giving plan. https://bountifulchildren.org/donate<br />While serving as a finance clerk for 6 years years in my ward under two bishops I quit paying tithing or fast offerings and instead gave my money directly to charities whom I knew helped truly poor and sick people.<br />Building great and spacious buildings and paying mortgages, car payments, cell phone and cable bills, etc. just didn't feel right to me.<br />I am the steward of my money and I will be accountable for where it goes.1https://www.blogger.com/profile/01583545885401871178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-51033488323541615002016-11-22T04:28:25.511-08:002016-11-22T04:28:25.511-08:00it reminds me of a recent experience I had with ch...it reminds me of a recent experience I had with church. I choose to live in my car for financial reasons and asked the bishop could I park at church cat=r park nxt to the temple because it would feel "safer". He said yes but only informally.<br /><br />A few weeks later I got a tap on car at 9:30 pm by a man whilst in church carpark. I had never met him before but he knew my name and said he was the church facilities manager and that he had been instructed by stake president to remove me immediately from the car park<br /><br />Hw waited until I left and it made me feel like I was a criminal.<br /><br />I saw stake president the next week and he justified his actions by saying he and bishop were far too busy so he did the efficient thing by getting church employee to remove me. You wont be surprised that stake president is a lawyer.<br /><br />Here is my poem about getting kicked out of church carpark.<br /><br />Lady Dianella: A Stake To The Heart<br /><br />the maggot tried to crush me<br />with righteous indignation<br />I'd had the sheer audacity<br />to park at his location<br /><br />He claimed his time was precious<br />the Lord's work must be done<br />so he sent his trusted minion<br />to leave well unspun<br /><br />his charm has left me cold<br />he thinks I've gone astray<br />but I have a friend in Jesus<br />who likes me anyway<br />Paul Manninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03397375149748964604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-83285119979155438862016-06-15T14:59:49.781-07:002016-06-15T14:59:49.781-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16497053548999031555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-6131841627207925912015-08-28T11:56:08.203-07:002015-08-28T11:56:08.203-07:00Denver, This kind of program has been in place for...Denver, This kind of program has been in place for over 30 years. We work with other like minded people to feed, clothe and provide for the homeless in our area. We don't need to retrofit our buildings with showers. I have a warm shower available in my home and a warm meal, an open heart and willing hand. It's the people that make up a church. I agree that we could all have greater focus on the Lord's priorities. Thanks! Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04572249609403086451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-22284120686323843402015-08-27T13:21:15.182-07:002015-08-27T13:21:15.182-07:00Thank you! This was what I wanted to say. I even l...Thank you! This was what I wanted to say. I even lived in Europe and it's vastly different there too. I think she's confusing the Utah Mormon Culture with the Church.Staceyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07229233245734572655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-40675540098584772852015-08-27T13:01:06.834-07:002015-08-27T13:01:06.834-07:00To interpret this talk by Elder Holland out of the...To interpret this talk by Elder Holland out of the context of everything else he has preached from the pulpit is unfortunate. It severely discounts everything else he's preached tirelessly about love and service. The point of that talk was missed by the author of this article, and the talk itself apparently only lead the author to produce this piece of previously constructed grievances against the LDS church. The church is imperfect, but those with ears to hear and eyes to see understand that the organization of the church is mere scaffolding for the discipleship God hopes to engender in each of us. Christ is the author and finisher of our faith through power of the atonement, so let's stop expecting his mortally organized church to finish our faith, and good heavens, may we stop finding fault with it! Talk about condescension! I had a hard time hearing the actual goodness of this message because of the constantly critical tone against the church and its culture. That's why we're counseled not to do the fault finding thing because there will ALWAYS be legit faults to find, and focusing on such is a HUGE distraction to our relationship with the Holy Ghost and our participation in the marvelous work and wonder currently unfolding. Hopefully, though, we are humble enough to allow our service in his church to put us on the path toward a discipleship. This discipleship will be as all inclusive, loving, and understanding as was Jesus himself while at the same time it will be as unflinching in its submission and obedience to God's will as was Christ in Gethsemane. mushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14071906505306550676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-21930481324161138202015-08-27T10:40:29.395-07:002015-08-27T10:40:29.395-07:00Thank you for your rare voice of reason here. This...Thank you for your rare voice of reason here. This blog post is going viral on Facebook amongst friends and I am so concerned with the influence it is having. <br /><br />Signs of the times.... <br /><br />JElsieAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11072855108422852014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-60169945481286770772015-08-27T09:12:17.148-07:002015-08-27T09:12:17.148-07:00By their works, ye may know them. Faith without wo...By their works, ye may know them. Faith without works is dead.<br /><br />Not that I believe any of the above.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01912751284947662586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-26981534424261629192015-08-27T09:11:00.130-07:002015-08-27T09:11:00.130-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01912751284947662586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-3023465635126113172015-08-26T23:28:51.966-07:002015-08-26T23:28:51.966-07:00Late to the party, but I'd like to speak for m...Late to the party, but I'd like to speak for my limited experience in the Church as an adult, of which 10 of the last 11 years since I have been a returned missionary adult in the Church, I have lived in either Provo or Orem. <br /><br />When I was a Cub Scout leader in the Provo Bonneville stake, we had quite a few Catholic Hispanic boys in our LDS sponsored unit. One of their mothers told me that she was going to have her younger sons join our unit "so he doesn't get into the gangs". That sounds like serving others not of our faith on a weekly basis. It's too bad so many of the den leaders didn't like Scouting and therefore didn't create a quality program for not only the LDS boys in that socio-economically depressed area of Provo, but also the other neighborhood boys who belonged to our pack. There are MANY economically disadvantaged boys whom we could embrace and serve within our LDS sponsored packs, troops, teams and crews if those BSA units were actually functioning and running effectively. <br /><br />When I was a Cub Scout leader in Orem, I instituted a yearly tradition where our pack would collect metal in the fall to recycle and then use that money to adopt a patient at the Utah State Hospital in their Forgotten Patient program. We did that for 3 years. Every year I thought of sending in a picture of the boys in my pack to the Friend magazine or Boy's Life, but never did. <br /><br />I have only been in my new ward since the end of March this year, and yes, I've already made a meal for someone else - for the local soup kitchen. Apparently it is our ward's turn every few months to make casseroles for the soup kitchen here, who would have thought?<br /><br />When my cousin's baby was at Primary Children's having her brain tumor removed, I went up there that day to offer moral support to her parents. We spent the day waiting in the Ronald McDonald room and since I was there late enough for dinner, I saw how businesses and volunteers REGULARLY bring in meals to families there. I saw the schedule of the next week or so and saw that there was at least one or two LDS congregations who were bringing in meals to the families in the Ronald McDonald room there at the hospital. <br /><br />When my husband was a missionary serving in Salt Lake City, the Church bought the food and provided the volunteers to make lunches for the homeless, which the Catholic Church then distributed. My husband did that for his weekly service nearly every week he was in that area. <br /><br />Perhaps it seems as though Mormon congregations don't "do enough service" for the poor is because all of the congregations I've been in as an adult, we are following the Savior's admonition of "But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth.” (Matt. 6:1, 3.)Yvonnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17720519382370112003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-43682015505469381452015-08-26T12:20:20.823-07:002015-08-26T12:20:20.823-07:00You say this as you post this reply under "an...You say this as you post this reply under "anonymous"? Gamyr Worfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00696835559368939337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-49210182235917088952015-08-11T08:23:18.524-07:002015-08-11T08:23:18.524-07:00Andrew
what a pathetic response..... Mormons don&...Andrew<br /><br />what a pathetic response..... Mormons don't claim to have a perfect church, perfect prophet, perfect leadership or perfect membership. The Only thing we believe to be perfect is Jesus Christ.Minerals Liberiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10641231774224870686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-62686022427456623642015-07-16T22:10:06.526-07:002015-07-16T22:10:06.526-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17782487876786002839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-11800942231698756932015-07-16T13:53:11.954-07:002015-07-16T13:53:11.954-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17782487876786002839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-31579616987020731002015-07-16T13:14:55.511-07:002015-07-16T13:14:55.511-07:00Book of Mormon 3 NEPHI 12:33-37
33 And again it...Book of Mormon 3 NEPHI 12:33-37 <br /><br /> 33 And again it is written, thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths;<br /><br /> 34 But verily, verily, I say unto you, swear not at all; neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne;<br /><br /> 35 Nor by the earth, for it is his footstool;<br /><br /> 36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair black or white;<br /><br /> 37 But let your communication be Yea, yea; Nay, nay; for whatsoever cometh of more than these is evil.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17782487876786002839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-91546772523464550932015-07-15T01:46:38.412-07:002015-07-15T01:46:38.412-07:00So I ask the question; Are the modern day missiona...So I ask the question; Are the modern day missionaries carrying a message of great joy and freedom to all the nations of the world, or are they merely luring people into a mental, physical and spiritual trap?<br />What is the difference between Lucifer's plan of forcing everyone down a cookie cutter style path, and that of the Modern day Church which forces people to make swears accompanied by a fear of destruction that virtually controls our God Given free agency? <br />Shouldn't the spirit be our guide and not a type of prescribed guilt? <br /><br /> As Debt and Credit surely are the Mark of the Beast, to swear is to put yourself in bondage also..<br /><br />By small means the Lord accomplishes great things..<br />But it is also by small variations to the PURE word of God that the adversary leads men into despair, disrepair and unbelief..<br /><br />But Who am I to talk about Corporate Policy, I'm just a Carpenter..Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17782487876786002839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-39793281087459565662015-07-15T01:44:55.914-07:002015-07-15T01:44:55.914-07:00I do believe in Miracles because I have seen many ...I do believe in Miracles because I have seen many through the power of unrelenting love as well as complete emptiness/submission to the will of the spirit. <br /><br />I believe that the Word of Wisdom is a good principle but I do not however believe that swearing an oath to keep it in order to join the church (or any church for that matter) is in any way shape form or fashion mentally healthy or fair to the person that is being literally lured by an ingenious monolithic marketing campaign that barely touches the tip of the iceberg that the potential convert is getting his/herself into (God forbid the spiritual prospector ask any real questions, only to be declared a waste of time via missionary training as missionaries are only looking for people that are satisfied with the pictures hanging on the wall and not the person that truly wants to investigate whether or not the church is or is not corrupt), while at the same time being Coerced by fear (if the prospectors do not swear their life to The Word of Wisdom and join the church they are cursed and If they agree to take this swear, they'd damn well better keep it because the Lords all mighty foot will remove itself from the footstool just long enough to stomp the fresh convert all the way down to the pit of misery and woe (this whole plight bearing a disturbing resemblance to the professional marketing tactic "I just can't live without it")..<br /><br />At the end of the day Yes!.. The Man/Woman that cannot hold to this swear, was far better off mentally before he/she ever made it!! Because now, nothing good is allowed to happen in this man's mormonized life lest he repent of his evil ways. For the world to him has become Mammon, and his mind sinks deeper and deeper into despair as he prays day and night for the strength to overcome his problems and live up to the image of the happy people that are printed on the cover of the missionary pamphlets, but nothing changes in the eyes of the pure because he is of little faith.. So alas he is fallen! Meanwhile, in the midst of summer, the upright members of the church eat a feast of meat, and they say amongst themselves; Look this man's dress is offensive because he is full of sin and behold he does not even tithe that which he earns, he must be cast off as the scriptures say. It is better that we haste to this the point lest he make a fool of this great Church! <br /><br />But if the man does not make the swear and become an official member, is he truly doomed from the moment the missionaries dust their feet off, on the way out his door??<br /><br />Oh, How the Purpose of Life is Happiness!!<br /><br />Let me go ahead and quote this scripture in my favor before my accuser uses it against me..<br />"14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."<br /><br />I feel that if the church is true, changing the nature and prescription of the 'Word of Wisdom' by making it a requirement and not only that, saying that its OK to do things that the scripture says not to do (like eating meat all year long) as well as saying NOT to do things that the scripture states the Lord has ordained as being good (drinking Beer), is a blatant perversion of the way that God intended.. All this has done is encourage the church to be an elitist society very much similar to the one that the Lord Himself destroyed in the Book of Mormon.. But, nonetheless I do believe it is good to keep the Word of Wisdom, in its entirety and blessings will come of it..<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17782487876786002839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-54459957731875322802015-07-14T23:07:29.900-07:002015-07-14T23:07:29.900-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17782487876786002839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-83757400935572282462015-07-14T05:09:54.692-07:002015-07-14T05:09:54.692-07:00@Andrew Kennedy.
When people want the power to o...@Andrew Kennedy. <br /><br />When people want the power to overcome their personal lusts, troubles, tribulations, and desired the Lord to bless them in power, they will keep the Word's of Wisdom. <br /><br />No man, can command the spirits, nor ascend to such mastery, external him or herself, until they have overcome the bastions of bondage and evil within their own self. As Genesis so profoundly points out, Adam and Eve were overcome by Satan, because they chose improper nourishment, according to their lusts, rather than according the Spirit of Peace. <br /><br />It is written, as it was at the first, so shall it be at the last. <br /><br />When men begin to come into a preparedness of perfection, men will obey God, as Adam and Eve did not. The beginning of time is the end, the end of time, indeed is the beginning.<br /><br />The difference is, men at the end will do what God has directed all along-at the end. <br /><br />No man can ascend to self mastery, until they keep this one spiritual rule. Keeping the Words of Wisdom. The Doctrine and Covenants says the "Lord's will for the Church is to keep the Words of Wisdom". This is written somewhere section 66 of my RLDS D&C. Somewhere different in your LDS D&C. <br /><br />Spirit and element are inseparable. One does not exist without the other. Both are eternal! What one does in the temporal world, transfers to the spiritual world. No man can become whole, until they are willing to become clean on the merit of their own effort to be so. <br /><br />As Jesus said before rubbing spit and clay in the man's blind eyes, and others, "be it unto you according to your faith"... Or my paraphrase, be it unto you according to your choice! <br /><br />I keep the Words of Wisdom enough that I can speak what I have spoken to you. Because of my past health problems, I by almost coincidence keep the wOW. Doing so has allowed me to live, and I have become healed, and more whole as a person. <br /><br />Now I keep the Word of Wisdom by choice. I keep the temporal law by choice. Doing so has paved the way to greater spiritual understanding for myself.<br /> <br /><br />James Brian Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04119780994914553414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-78015602997771357222015-07-14T00:31:49.178-07:002015-07-14T00:31:49.178-07:00Oh, and Adam who said this -
""God comm...Oh, and Adam who said this -<br /><br />""God commanded us to have faith, and if we have faith, miracles shall follow such as healing the sick, casting out devils, the lame will walk, the deaf will hear, the blind will see, the dead will be raised, we shall take up poisnous serpants and not be harmed and shall drink poisnous drinks and not be harmed. being Gay is a sin, it is a sexual affliction. It is a result of Satan attacking and making us ill....if we had an ounce of faith, we might see that, and if we had faith sufficient to say to that mountain depart, it would depart...so it is with being gay...if we had faith we would say "I command you evil spirits come out in the name of Jesus Christ" and they would....and the sin of being gay would flee from that person. but instead in your hippy world of accept everyone, in your so called uncomfortable God, that never condemns, that accepts everyone, Gay is a "choice", not a sin.""<br /><br />Adam, with all your super human faith, you should go find a gay person right now and make the Sin of being Gay flee from that person, lol.. I would fly across the country to watch that. And honestly, when was the last time you witnessed the Church's leaders performing ANY of those miracles that you mention? But i'll tell you what, i'm about to go drink something that they say is poisonous and I will "not be harmed" as you say, because thats right, I have FAITH.. Cheers! <br /><br />On another note I'm sure you do not keep the part of the Word of Wisdom that states that Meat should not be consumed, except in times of winter, cold or famine an even then it should be used sparingly.. This I assume because I have never in my whole life met a single member of the Mormon church that keeps it (which also means that I have never met a Mormon that TRUTHFULLY keeps the Word of Wisdom). <br /><br />With that said, Who is the bigger sinner here? You, the person that contributes to Near, Nay absolute Satanic Cruelty and Misery inflicted on Animals within the Livestock industry all in the name of Excess consumption -OR- The Gay Man that you Love to Hate? Hmmm.. Maybe you should rethink your footing on that pedestal in which you are standing..<br /><br />As a Footnote: The reason why the Mormon church turns a blind eye to that part of the Word of Wisdom is because they make a profit by members breaking it since, the Mormon Church is the Largest Cow-Calf Producer in the Entire United States.. <br /><br />"We’re in this for a profit," Ramsay says. "We're a taxpaying entity. We pay property taxes and income taxes just like anyone else." -Manager of Deseret Ranch, Chip Ramsay, LA Times 2001.. Link is Below:<br /><br />http://www.livestockweekly.com/papers/01/01/25/whldeseret.asp<br /><br />Have a nice day Hero<br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17782487876786002839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-37984821959000067012015-07-13T23:44:36.139-07:002015-07-13T23:44:36.139-07:00It is sad to me, some of the members of the church...It is sad to me, some of the members of the church that are scared to death of speaking their true feelings on a blog like this. Even while hiding behind an anonymous name tag, they are timid and frightened of the repercussions that would ensue if anyone in their family or local community were to find out... It is so obvious in their tone.. <br /><br />Dear Heavenly Father, if that is not a sign that something is wrong in the Church, I don't know what is..Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17782487876786002839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-10350982511883353382015-06-28T06:11:46.935-07:002015-06-28T06:11:46.935-07:00
Important to know is that having same sex attract...<br />Important to know is that having same sex attraction is not a choice, however knowing how you are going to respond to your same sax attraction is a choice. <br /><br />http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2015/04/14899/Minerals Liberiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10641231774224870686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-72498003841911609962015-06-27T23:45:07.994-07:002015-06-27T23:45:07.994-07:00part 2 sorry would fit in one comment
"I was...part 2 sorry would fit in one comment<br /><br />"I was left to wonder, "Who are these people Elder Holland is referring to?" I don't know them."<br /><br />the world is burning to the ground and you arrogantly ask "who are these people"?....is this a real question? the world is literally burning to the ground and you sincerely think:<br /><br />"I see people who want to feed the poor, clothe the naked, and visit the sick and imprisoned with more than a plate of cookies and a warm casserole"<br /><br />you honestly think THIS is a majority? have we gone mad? this is a minority... a shrinking minority. the last days do not get compared to the days of noah, do not get condemned in brutal fashion by Nephi and Mormon and Moroni, and the book of revelations did not come into existence because we, the members of the last days, are by and large caring and loving people. no we are selfish, and vain, and prideful and lustful, and generally speaking just evil.<br /><br />"when manifest through me, is a corrective force needing little, if any, accompanying condemnation."<br /><br />while this can be true...the fact is the scriptures which are manifestations of men speaking through the power of God do by large and relrentlessly condemn us.<br /><br />"I assure you, my walk through the gray complexities of life has made me terribly uncomfortable."<br /><br />here again...complexities of life... I am going to guess this another Job reference...Job was not in a land of gray complexities of life....it was cut and dry. Satan basically said "God, let me torment Job and he will deny You" and God basically said "Okay, but you cannot kill him"....its pretty cut and dry. black and white. there is no grey there.<br /><br />"It's easier to kick out a gay child and denounce his "choice" than to relearn how to love him and subsequently acknowledge the worth of the people he brings into your life."<br /><br />heres the thing....God commanded us to have faith, and if we have faith, miracles shall follow such as healing the sick, casting out devils, the lame will walk, the deaf will hear, the blind will see, the dead will be raised, we shall take up poisnous serpants and not be harmed and shall drink poisnous drinks and not be harmed. being Gay is a sin, it is a sexual affliction. It is a result of Satan attacking and making us ill....if we had an ounce of faith, we might see that, and if we had faith sufficient to say to that mountain depart, it would depart...so it is with being gay...if we had faith we would say "I command you evil spirits come out in the name of Jesus Christ" and they would....and the sin of being gay would flee from that person. but instead in your hippy world of accept everyone, in your so called uncomfortable God, that never condemns, that accepts everyone, Gay is a "choice", not a sin.<br /><br />you raise a lot of great points...but you raise a ton of bad ones too. these are the ones i feel inclined to address.adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02378858112985623725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-42691221051405653052015-06-27T23:44:47.616-07:002015-06-27T23:44:47.616-07:00a lot of this talk was solid, really well written....a lot of this talk was solid, really well written....but it has some plot holes<br /><br />"Loaded words like "advocacy," "patriarchal," "provincial," and "bigoted" sprinkled throughout the talk seemed to point squarely at families who lobby for civil rights for their gay children, women who struggle with the hierarchical inequity in Church structure, and people like me, who see love -known in the scriptures as charity- as a divine power which never faileth."<br /><br />okay....let's be clear. Gods church is patriarchal...it always has been and God doesnt condone homosexuality either. He calls it a sin. This here and a lot of the points raised in this post are an attempt to throw out scripture because its politically incorrect. thus we take lightly the things of God and bring condemnation to our souls.<br /><br />"it’s not because we are guilty and hate hard truths"<br /><br />here is another load of nonsense...people cannot handle hard truths....IT IS THE LAST DAYS...if that is true, then we cannot handle hard truths and we are in fact guilty.<br /><br />"It’s because, as was the case with Job, we’ve lived lives of hard truth and we’ve experienced the complexities of mortality firsthand."<br /><br />confusing the entire Job story with her own life....Job was quite literally tested. He did not experience the complexities of life such as children and working and so on....no God saw that he was a good man, and let Satan torment him endlessly as a test of faith. this was not the complexities of living....this was God outright testing Job. unless God has let Satan personally torment your very existence....you do not get to compare yourself to Job. thats very high handed of you<br /><br />"I know it. I’ve paid it. I pay it every single day"<br /><br />I sincerely doubt it...why? you compared yourself to Job inapproriately.adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02378858112985623725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-25804212700881159792015-04-26T17:35:30.722-07:002015-04-26T17:35:30.722-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.pamelanoreply@blogger.com