tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post7091403990462557007..comments2024-03-28T15:23:18.071-07:00Comments on Pure Mormonism: Baby Ruth Is Made Of PoopAlan Rock Watermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04971243364867111868noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-61105565829316871342014-10-02T09:03:48.539-07:002014-10-02T09:03:48.539-07:00Jeff,
I was asked about my political philosophy o...Jeff, <br />I was asked about my political philosophy on LDS Anarchist, and my response was that although the constitution is the best compromise the founders could attain, it is far less than perfect because it depends upon the people to enforce it, and the people don't enforce the contract.<br /><br />My sympathies are closer to the Anti-federalists like Patrick Henry than for the federalists.Alan Rock Watermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04971243364867111868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-46819239429188799422014-09-30T22:46:12.601-07:002014-09-30T22:46:12.601-07:00Great post about a fearless search for truth. I un...Great post about a fearless search for truth. I understand your points about the Tea Party. Sadly as I believe you've pointed out elsewhere, it has become an entirely different beast, changing and devolving as did the occupy movement as it was co-opted by the two great whore state churches respectively. I also used to be an adherent to Alex Jones, but have since chose to focus my attention to Stefan Molyneaux and the Non Aggression Principle, as it relates to the Gospel. As I know the LDS anarchist group has drawn your attention from time to time, I am curious as to whether your thoughts regarding the constitution have changed. Your posts hold the constitution in high regard, as do a few D&C references. I wonder if time has given you a more... nuanced opinion on this as well? If not a blog, maybe it would make a good topic of discussion over at LDS Anarchist FB if you shared your current sentiments regarding the application and foundational principles of the constitution. Sometimes it's justifications of state expansion can be stinky, but surely it can't all be poop, right??Jeff Petersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18320933041496234213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-49022001472444303592013-10-06T20:50:15.872-07:002013-10-06T20:50:15.872-07:00Is Alex Jones right about everything? No, of cours...Is Alex Jones right about everything? No, of course not, no one is, not even Joseph Smith was. <br /><br />But where is there anyone who is standing for right and risking as much to tell the truth as Alex Jones and follow God to bring hidden things of darkness to light? <br /><br />Those who criticize him only show they don't understand how awful our situation is and how appropriate his outrage is, nor do they seem to know what real righteousness looks like today.<br /><br />If we had a true prophet around today, especially like Moroni or Joseph, he or they would be acting and speaking much like Alex Jones. Ever hear of Samuel the Lamanite? He and Alex have a lot of things in common, especially how they are received by most people. <br /><br />Those who won't stand for right themselves, nor for Christ's teachings, will so quickly criticize Alex because he uses all his might, mind & strength to stand for right the only way he knows how & to the best of his ability. Who is doing more or better than him?. I honor him and so appreciate that there are still a few good men like him around. <br /><br />It seems that Alex has done more to promote freedom than anyone since Joseph Smith. Who can say they do more or better than he does?<br /><br />Whatever his faults, I believe he will enter heaven before most all other men I have ever known, especially in the Church, because he was willing to stand for right, when hardly no one is. His name will go down with the great patriots of the Revolution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-57725879753695987582013-10-06T15:25:12.144-07:002013-10-06T15:25:12.144-07:00Alex Jones is, for some people, an acquired taste....Alex Jones is, for some people, an acquired taste. I myself have acquired a taste for Alex Jones and enjoy going back to the well for more.<br /><br />His rant on the Piers Morgan show was abrasive, alright, but he set out to do what he intended: prevent Morgan from doing what Morgan normally does to guests he disagrees with, not allowing them to get a word in edgewise. <br /><br />Say what you like about Alex's presentation, he has been proven prescient time and again. And his audience is growing.Alan Rock Watermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04971243364867111868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-50782106576747743392013-10-03T21:38:16.219-07:002013-10-03T21:38:16.219-07:00Glenn Beck is a Fear Mongering Salesman. Having a...Glenn Beck is a Fear Mongering Salesman. Having a form of truth but denying the power thereof. <br />My parents think he is a modern Samuel the Lamanite....I think he is a modern Zeezrom, trying to sway righteous men like Ron Paul from doing and saying what is right. <br />God Bless him...he needs it.H Wildehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07029539529586331846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-3045204539785396582013-10-03T21:35:07.729-07:002013-10-03T21:35:07.729-07:00Working currently in retail myself...I'm alway...Working currently in retail myself...I'm always surprised how many people in a dispute try to claim too me: The customer is always right! <br />I usually respond to that with "At Wal-Mart or McDonalds. They can afford to flatter you with such foolishness. However I won't cheat you anymore by continuing the illusion with that great falsehood."<br />What's funny is that my generation is more ok with hearing that than what I have found in the baby boomer generation.H Wildehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07029539529586331846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-9330940833446222452013-10-03T21:30:52.649-07:002013-10-03T21:30:52.649-07:00This article reminded me of the prank we pulled in...This article reminded me of the prank we pulled in the MTC where we got a Baby Ruth wet and then laid it on a random toilet seat in the bathroom. The reactions were AWESOME!<br /><br />I just wanted to comment (for what its worth) that I don't like Alex Jones at all. I don't necessarily disagree with his overall big picture conclusions, but I find he has a tendency to jump to the most radical conclusion that he can find. He has some "ok" information, but overall I believe he is by and large doing a disservice to the tea party, libertarians, and history revisionists. I believe this is a result from going to the "Bilderberger" meeting and yelling: WE WILL NOT BE YOUR SLAVES!! Or going on with Piers Morgan and acting like an idiotic baboon. <br />That is not influential and anyone that hadn't already come to the big picture conclusions that Alex has espoused, is turned away when they see that. I find it hard to believe that anybody who wasn't already at his same conclusions prior to finding his material, sees or listens to Alex Jones and is persuaded by anything he has to say...this is largely because of his A-Typical Conspiracy Theorist antics.<br />I am not knocking Conspiracy Theorists because I am one. I have been reading of Skull and Bones/ BilderBergers/ Illuminati and the Bohemian Grove since I was 12. (I am 31 now.) Therefore I know first hand how few people are willing to listen to these types of big picture conclusions. I have found that when I run into the majority who are skeptical, they are immediately turned off by whatever Alex Jones says. A disinformation agent or false flag agent for sure...but not a credible person to turn others too...H Wildehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07029539529586331846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-66176162425716608372013-09-30T17:06:34.752-07:002013-09-30T17:06:34.752-07:00Classic "Caddy Shack" doodie (Baby Ruth)...Classic "Caddy Shack" doodie (Baby Ruth) in pool- Hilarious! <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPxiXGr9nFMThomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15832701313385142254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-22036439293134181412013-06-20T03:45:54.343-07:002013-06-20T03:45:54.343-07:00You gotta admit, that is one well targeted Spam pr...You gotta admit, that is one well targeted Spam program. It saw the word "poop" in a blog and zeroed right in. A tip of the hat.Alan Rock Watermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04971243364867111868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-66801438387962135942013-06-20T01:42:35.644-07:002013-06-20T01:42:35.644-07:00This diaper is very thin but it absorbs really wel...This diaper is very thin but it absorbs really well. It beats Pampers, Huggies and Costco brand. My son's diaper rash is gone after using this.honest diaperhttp://www.babble.com/baby/our-honest-opinion-of-honest-diapers/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-63150778180828154862010-05-27T08:44:53.800-07:002010-05-27T08:44:53.800-07:00I attended the first tea party of the tea party mo...I attended the first tea party of the tea party movement because I wanted to get a first-hand look at what it was all about. I had my hopes up that perhaps a segment of the population was finally realizing that it was in bondage and wanted out. What I found, though, were largely Obama-haters with a smidgen of Bush-loathers and other ideologies mixed in. In all my interviews and conversations with the people there (I attended two rallies on the same day in different locations), I found only STATISTS among them. I as the lone anarchist.<br /><br />That night I met with a good friend of mine who wanted my assessment. He was aware that I have two gifts that of late have been quite active, the gift to prophesy and the discerning of spirits, and so wanted my impressions. I told him that the tea partiers, although they appeared genuinely sincere, were delusional; no change of the status quo would come of the movement; and that the secret combination would use these people to further their plans. I counseled him to stay away from it.<br /><br />Oh, yeah, one other thing: I DID detect racism among many of them.<br /><br />I realize that there is a desire among the LDS to participate in the political process so that it becomes a force for good in the world--and so the tea party movement which seems well-intentioned appears attractive--but there is only one political ideology that is 100% compatible with the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Father's champion of free agency, and that is anarchism. Everything else compromises with the devil, who is a statist through and through.<br /><br />LDS AnarchistAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-58757860319299500692010-05-13T08:58:56.306-07:002010-05-13T08:58:56.306-07:00Good post, Rock. I remain unconvinced that the maj...Good post, Rock. I remain unconvinced that the majority of tea partiers know what good government looks like, but I hope to be proven wrong. <br /><br />We need people who know good principles as much as we need people to effectively tear down the leviathan: <a href="http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/on-whether-to-tear-down-or-build-up" rel="nofollow">http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/on-whether-to-tear-down-or-build-up</a>Connorhttp://www.connorboyack.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-32970839027592918712010-05-10T02:33:22.251-07:002010-05-10T02:33:22.251-07:00The Hegelian dialectic strategy that has been empl...The Hegelian dialectic strategy that has been employed so successfully on the American public for so long requires that two sides be played against each other, while in reality both sides are with each other and against the public. Some of this has been apparent in the loosely connected tea party groups, most obviously when Newt Gingrich tried to become "the leader" of the whole deal. Talk about an establishment courtesan! I see plenty of people who are making a break for actual liberty, and some who are clamoring for things to go back to "the way they were." I think the latter type are greatly influenced by Glenn Beck and his numerous movements, seminars, and programs. Sitting at the feet of Lincoln will solve our problems? And how do we reduce the size and intrusiveness of government and simultaneously promote, or even demand, a military large enough to invade and occupy three or more foreign countries at once? A larger military budget than the rest of the world combined necessarily requires an enormous, oppressive, invasive government. It's nice to see people reacting so unfavorably to government policies, but can we please remember that Big Government is bad even when we agree with its policies? Will Grigg said it best: <a href="http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2010_04_01_archive.html" rel="nofollow">"Every invasion of individual rights<br />happens with the eager support of people acting in the sincere and thoroughly mistaken confidence that what they permit the state to do to others will never be done to them."</a><br />So why can't your facebook friend see the tea party thing for what it is, which is a collision of a number of different ideologies that happen to agree that enough is enough, and probably even too much? Probably because he doesn't want to, and probably because he went to public school. It's very hard to think critically, so people shut their eyes and block out the headache-inducing truth.<br />My dad likes to compare the general population to cattle in a feed lot. Even if some knew they were headed to the slaughterhouse and tried to warn the others, they would still all end up as meat on the table. Or dog food. Or whatever else, but you get the point.Isaachttp://thestanfielddoctrine.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-24024407633597310092010-04-29T10:28:41.726-07:002010-04-29T10:28:41.726-07:00Thanks for those links, Dave. I'm reading not...Thanks for those links, Dave. I'm reading notalwaysright.com right now. Hilarious!Rock Watermannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-30774166935474411062010-04-29T08:40:25.646-07:002010-04-29T08:40:25.646-07:00I feel one of the basic tenets of this post is how...I feel one of the basic tenets of this post is how people can be so prideful that they're never willing to admit when they get something wrong or they themselves are wrong over an issue. It's amazing how this can apply to the smallest detail (but then again, "By small and simple things...").<br /><br />Two of my favorite sites (and also the biggest reasons why I pray I never have to work in retail) are customerssuck.com and notalwaysright.com where people constantly have to deal with those who believe they're always right, no matter what.Dave P.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-23731949456510012902010-04-28T13:41:14.814-07:002010-04-28T13:41:14.814-07:00Rock,
That was an excellent post. I also have go...Rock,<br /><br />That was an excellent post. I also have good friends who see the Tea Party movement as racist and akin to the current mainstream Republican party. Sadly though, I do feel the Tea Party movement is being infiltrated and compromised. In fact, I've seen first hand evidence of this by people who are part of the so-called "9/12" movement, who identify themselves as "Tea Partiers," yet disdain the likes of Ron Paul and Debra Medina. It seems as if they love Glenn Beck and anything he promotes, nothing more or less. It looks a lot like idol worship to me.<br /><br />Helaman 6:38 is always on my mind. If the righteous Nephites could be so deceived, we of course are equally susceptible to the exact same deception. However, I see so many people at church that seem blissfully smug because "we have the true gospel." All is well in Zion, or so they seem to tell themselves. <br /><br />This is a great post. How badly do we want to know the truth? Awakening to our situation can be earth shattering for some, as it could affect our world view dramatically. That is why I love so many of the words and works of our Founding Fathers. I think they really understood the foe they were facing. Patrick Henry so aptly stated:<br />It is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.Frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-13677577843462451692010-04-27T11:50:21.713-07:002010-04-27T11:50:21.713-07:00Rock:
As you well know, I, too, have some Faceboo...Rock:<br /><br />As you well know, I, too, have some Facebook friends who think that Baby Ruths are made of poop, and that I just simply love to eat poop!<br /><br />;-)<br /><br />Oh well. I keep trying, hoping that others who happen by these facebook conversations will see the irrationality on the part of my interlocutors and thus be more interested in my side of the story.<br /><br />I agree with you that the Tea Party movement IS part of some new spiritual awakening. Admittedly, not everyone who belongs to the movement understands the real reason for the movement, and some who allegedly belong to it are attempting to co-opt it and prostitute it for their own purposes, AND some of those who belong to the movement have their own ways of thinking that Baby Ruths are made of poop, too!<br /><br />Oh well. We just keep trying!!!Frank Stahelihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01822334061980912687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-38228428585472367722010-04-26T09:00:50.007-07:002010-04-26T09:00:50.007-07:00Great post Rock. Your intuitive understanding of ...Great post Rock. Your intuitive understanding of the Tea Party movement and the attempts to hijack or discredit it very much mirror my own. Thanks for articulating this so well and balanced.<br /><br />MicahMicahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09633688606174786562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-41948199717569217052010-04-26T07:46:01.168-07:002010-04-26T07:46:01.168-07:00Not a day goes by when I don't think of what t...Not a day goes by when I don't think of what the Savior says in JS-Matthew. While it speaks for itself, I want to highlight a few particular verses that are being fulfilled more and more:<br /><br />Verse 4: "The end of the world" is the destruction of the wicked and the sparing of the righteous, or rather the separation of the wheat and the tares. The end of the earth, or the end of our planet, will come after the millennium wherein the earth will be destroyed and resurrected as the celestial kingdom. How many phrases in other cultures, especially Mayan, that translate to "end of the world" also refer to that destruction of the wicked? Sometimes I wonder if the world will even last until 2012.<br /><br />Verses 6-9: False Christs and false prophets... *Looks over at Capitol Hill.*<br /><br />Verses 22-23: If possible, the very elect shall be deceived. It's possible and it's happening.<br /><br />Verse 32-42: The Abomination of Desolation has not yet been fulfilled. It will be. The Savior is telling us to be prepared to flee at first notice of the signs of its approach, even if we just have the clothes on our back. The same happened in Jerusalem when Titus sacked it in 70 A.D. and it will happen again.<br /><br />The Lord has said that He will first cleanse the church when He comes again, so anyone who tries to play both sides of the net will be the first to go.Dave P.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-12206895291714893042010-04-26T03:02:05.238-07:002010-04-26T03:02:05.238-07:00Good link, Tom, and an intelligent interview.
I&#...Good link, Tom, and an intelligent interview.<br /><br />I'm beginning to share your sense that the tea parties may have been hopelessly co-opted and turned into Fox News/Republican organs. There may be no getting them back, although I do hold out hope that films like "Fall of The Republic", if seen by enough people, can inoculate the masses against the takeover. I hope the readers of this blog will click on those links and watch those films.<br /><br /> It may take at least one more election cycle before the voters discover that simply changing back to a Republican majority didn't do the trick. <br /><br />Look at all those angry at Obama who somehow were unable to recognize that their man Bush wasn't doing things any differently than Obama is now. I suppose that once they get Republicans into office again and find that things STILL haven't improved, a tiny light may finally go on in their heads and they'll finally get a clue and realize that the left-right paradigm is phony and that isn't the solution.<br /><br />I think the real awakening will be when Americans finally wake up to the fact that they've been played with this game of "our team is the good guys, theirs is the bad guys, and all we need to do is get the ball back into the hands of our team and everything will be swell again."<br /><br />On the other hand, we're going to have to have a country of moral and religious people, as John Adams said, or it won't work. <br /><br />The refiner's fire is on its way, sadly, and it's gonna hurt. I fear there's no escaping the painful correction that's coming.Rock Watermannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-8915209950805659662010-04-25T22:17:25.467-07:002010-04-25T22:17:25.467-07:00Great post. In theory.
I only say in theory beca...Great post. In theory.<br /><br />I only say in theory because like many movements, they tend to get co-opted. I'd like to believe that members of the church of the latter-day tea party are open minded and willing to realize the false dichotomy/religion of the two party church/political system, but I have my doubts. <br /><br />With the false priests who consistently air the "establishment" views (Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly, Rush, to name a few), tea party members are still kneeling at the altar of their false gods. These are the same false priests who profess that they represent the tea party movement and, as such, the vast majority of tea party members align with whatever these false priests say. Whether it's to rail on anyone who doesn't accept the official version of 9/11, or to continue to propagate a system of -isms, except for the greatest idol of all - capitalism - they lull their adherents with sweet words, mixed with the cyanide of "establishment" which continues still today.<br /><br />I'm actually surprised to see people who haven't noticed the "status quo" that was brought in with the new President. They say he needs more time, they say he's working to fix the broken system... Yet, all I see is a continuation of broken policies, programs and the continued nation building which is so contrary to scripture I don't know where to begin. Turning to LDS members, there is no more hallowed god than the god of war. We must liberate these captives, we must bring democracy - not just any democracy, but the democracy of corporate elitism that plagues most of the "modern" world - we must bring capitalism to them all. That god of war is a sweet nuggat of crap disguised as a baby ruth...yet because of all the food additives they've grown used to, they can't distinguish the real taste from the chemical one.<br /><br />I do believe it's an awakening of sorts, but I wouldn't at all be surprised to see Republicans voted into office based on the the 'R' following their name, not based on their values vis-a-vis the Constitution or any other secular scripture.<br /><br />Maybe I'm just weak in the faith department...or, maybe, it's just way too late in the ballgame to hope for change in a political environment held captive by corporate interests.<br /><br />I like the way this guy puts it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivKgQ4R4K7k&feature=player_embeddedTomhttp://truthmarche.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-54743033163099274522010-04-25T21:37:49.519-07:002010-04-25T21:37:49.519-07:00That's the craziest freakin' thing I'v...That's the craziest freakin' thing I've ever heard! Everybody knows it's Tootsie Rolls that are made of poop. <br /><br />Hey Gaybob Spongebath, you're not the only one :)Amy McIntyrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10069181070093789215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-59919352906210566032010-04-25T21:07:48.158-07:002010-04-25T21:07:48.158-07:00I can't quite explain why, but I suddenly have...I can't quite explain why, but I suddenly have an inexplicable craving for a Baby Ruth and an urgent need to poop.GayBob SpongeBathnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-46687991794153021052010-04-25T20:52:26.750-07:002010-04-25T20:52:26.750-07:00Justin,
But when you find the right people, peop...Justin,<br /><br /><br />But when you find the right people, people that have knowledge to share with you and people that are willing to accept your knowledge, those three subjects can be some of the most rewarding of all to discuss. <br /><br />Your comment on those three subjects says more about the flaws in the average person now days then it does about those subjects.<br /><br />Alan,<br /><br />Great post. I look forward to reading more.TuNeCedeMalishttp://www.tunecedemalis.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1342380624800894371.post-86977116247523743162010-04-25T19:40:03.056-07:002010-04-25T19:40:03.056-07:00I've learned that there are three things peopl...I've learned that there are three things people will rarely - if ever - change their minds about because of a conversation they have with you:<br />Religion, Diet, and Politics<br /><br />I avoid these topics because it will always turn into one of the described "brain-off" arguments where no one's mind is changed.<br /><br />On these three topics, it takes a long series of study and research or a huge, life-changing experience to change someone's POV.Justinnoreply@blogger.com